That is an impressive list Chat, but what have you actually accomplished?

Am I to believe that your end goal is to make a long list of ships?


When we entered into the war against USF, our goal wasn't to destroy USF ships. Our goal was to eliminate a perceived threat. Relations with WTO and USF are now better then they have ever been, so we clearly accomplished our goal.

Have you?

I wish people would quit saying USF lost the war, cause I sure dont feel like we did. Sure we got a few nasty bruises, and lost a tooth, but a good pruning can produce more fruit.

Are you sure you did not put the same ships twice?

Now that i look at it again....yeah it does look like it

My apologies for using USF in my example.

I was not at all implying that USF "lost" the war. I was just using that situation to point out the difference between a goal, and a means to achieve it. A means can be changed at any time, but a goal should not.

Going back to my example, the WTO's goal had nothing to do with destroying ships. Our goal was to not feel threatened any more (whether or not that threat was justified is a topic for another conversation). As it turns out in the end, we were better able to meet our goal through diplomacy than continued aggression. Now instead of feeling threatened, we are on the way to what will hopefully become a lasting and prosperous business relationship. (baby steps )

Since I have no way of knowing what the USF goals were, or if they met them, I cannot say if they won or lost. Only USF can decide that.

Who knows, maybe your goal was to get rid of MM, in which case you could say we both won.


Cheers!

-
A Miller

perhaps you were implying that the war fell downthe side of their sofa and they'll find it one day ?

oops, i better fix that

Edit : Fixed!!!

you definitely lost.

An act of sabotage?
I bought cargo from him and i don't think that is the

right sb.

let me tell you the full story.
After seeing the latest iridium modification i decided

to stalk up with iridium. After collecting from jexia,

casia, and solia I decided to start checking the

expanses. After a little price list searching i came

across 4mill + iridium for sale. I jumped to the SB

location in expanse 17. To my surprise I found a tetrium

mega.
Expanse 17 - Sector 150 - Grid 258
Scan Asteroid

Tetrium Ore
27,532,370 Isatons

Asteroid Surface
Iridium Ore Layer - 2,734,710 Isatons
Scanner cannot penetrate this Layer
Scanner cannot penetrate this Layer
Scanner cannot penetrate this Layer
Scanner cannot penetrate this Layer
Scanner cannot penetrate this Layer
Asteroid Core


I bought the 4mill+ iridium, jumped to another sb in

e17 to buy more, went to casia, docked, took a 5 hour

nap, woke up to see the iridium at that particular SB

siezed.
(sb in question showed below)




Little tokyo is a SB in expanse 17 owned by jconne01. I would like him to

supply a picture of my stored cargo. It will show that i

was going around that day buying cargo, not SABOTAGING.


(a list of all the iridium i own)

Iridium X 1 (1 Isaton)

cost $0 fee $0 Private Starbase


Iridium X 57,715 (1 Isaton)

cost $575 fee $50 K 182

Superstore
Iridium X 10,420 (1 Isaton)

cost $600 fee $430 Aquila

Trade Sb
Iridium X 96,000 (1 Isaton)

cost $616 fee $430 Aquila

Trade Sb
Iridium X 50,880 (1 Isaton)

cost $619 fee $430 Aquila

Trade Sb
Iridium X 212,000 (1 Isaton)

cost $622 fee $430 Aquila

Trade Sb
Iridium X 60,160 (1 Isaton)

cost $620 fee $430 Aquila

Trade Sb
Iridium X 120,320 (1 Isaton)

cost $627 fee $430 Aquila

Trade Sb
Iridium X 86,570 (1 Isaton)

cost $629 fee $430 Aquila

Trade Sb
Iridium X 686,104 (1 Isaton)

cost $617 fee $210 Cloud 9
Iridium X 1,487,542 (1 Isaton)

cost $599 fee $0 N D A Local 558
Iridium X 316 (1 Isaton)

cost $599 fee $0

Iridiumriverrunner
Iridium X 1,462 (1 Isaton)

cost $599 fee $0

Iridiumriverrunner
Iridium X 740,000 (1 Isaton)

cost $565 fee $0

Iridiumriverrunner
Iridium X 70,480 (1 Isaton)

cost $560 fee $0

Iridiumriverrunner
Iridium X 2,000 (1 Isaton)

cost $656 fee $0

Iridiumriverrunner
Iridium X 271 (1 Isaton)

cost $607 fee $0

Iridiumriverrunner
Iridium X 32 (1 Isaton)

cost $557 fee $0

Iridiumriverrunner
Iridium X 120,000 (1 Isaton)

cost $564 fee $0

Iridiumriverrunner
Iridium X 102,240 (1 Isaton)

cost $565 fee $0 Tyrian Pride
Iridium X 320 (1 Isaton)

cost $564 fee $0 Tyrian Pride
Iridium X 120,320 (1 Isaton)

cost $567 fee $0 Tyrian Pride
Iridium X 60,160 (1 Isaton)

cost $587 fee $0 Tyrian Pride
Iridium X 40,160 (1 Isaton)

cost $571 fee $0 Tyrian Pride
Iridium X 223,920 (1 Isaton)

cost $569 fee $0 Tyrian Pride
Iridium X 180,480 (1 Isaton)

cost $570 fee $0 Tyrian Pride
Iridium X 300,800 (1 Isaton)

cost $575 fee $0 Tyrian Pride
Iridium X 541,440 (1 Isaton)

cost $576 fee $0 Tyrian Pride
Iridium X 724,460 (1 Isaton)

cost $600 fee $5 Romper Room
Iridium X 519,322 (1 Isaton)

cost $500 fee $5 Dragns Vault 9 1


Iridium X 2,723,731 (1 Isaton)

cost $600 fee $5 Dragns Vault 9 1


Iridium X 1,325,346 (1 Isaton)

cost $457 fee $0 Area-31
Iridium X 159,624 (1 Isaton)

cost $475 fee $0 Area-31
Iridium X 217,720 (1 Isaton)

cost $453 fee $0 Area-31
Iridium X 558,912 (1 Isaton)

cost $477 fee $0 Area-31
Iridium X 180,480 (1 Isaton)

cost $586 fee $0 Tyrian Pride
Iridium X 929,200 (1 Isaton)

cost $608 fee $0 Tyrian Pride
Iridium X 636,160 (1 Isaton)

cost $500 fee






$4 Little Tokyo
Iridium X 6,720 (1 Isaton)

cost $450 fee $4 Little Tokyo
Iridium X 960,790 (1 Isaton)

cost $700 fee $4 Little Tokyo











Iridium X 5,373,643 (1 Isaton)

cost $200 fee $20 X4

Starbase Alpha
Iridium X 120,000 (1 Isaton)

cost $616 fee $0 N D A Local 558
Iridium X 1,710,000 (1 Isaton)

cost $615 fee $0 N D A Local 558
Iridium X 2,842,750 (1 Isaton)

cost $820 fee $0

Iridiumriverrunner
Iridium X 350,002 (1 Isaton)

cost $825 fee $0

Iridiumriverrunner
Iridium X 2,411,002 (1 Isaton)

cost $604 fee $2 Romper Room
Iridium X 121,269 (1 Isaton)

cost $620 fee $10 Wto

Builder Depot
Iridium X 4,916,250 (1 Isaton)

cost $615 fee $10 Wto

Builder Depot
Iridium X 4,189,766 (1 Isaton)

cost $504 fee $2 Tyrian Exports

I say we shoot WTO....
But thats just me.

in the interest of fairness, I can confirm that he does in fact have Iridium stored at my location, if a screenshot is needed Ill post one.

Does it it say how long it has been stored there?
That's what's really important (also the iridum part).

O and im pretty sure the SB description said "For the use of the Space Cowboy Guild".

hmmm, sb name is wild bill? odd

AND there is an SCG member 2 grids away?


Even more odd

When i think for the use of the SCG, i dont think my cargo will get seized. Now if it said something like WTO 8th Wonder- Amazing Race Fleet only

Then i might get some ideas buuuut...

there you go.

As Miller said…impressive kill list Chat.

However large these stats are (including inactives and V2s), it tells only half the story. How about the cost? So how many car payments have you paid for Torin through donations? Also since you are keen on bragging on ships Spades have killed, why not unhide your stats so we can see the kills on you. (to use one of my favorite movie quotes) "What’s the matter Col Sanders…Chicken?"

What it comes down to Chat is that you have accomplished nothing but to turn this game into something very one dimensional for you. Let’s see what am I going to do today...build a CV, attack an eco, get blown up, pod somewhere; wait 2 or 3 days and repeat. What you have done is to alienate yourself from the majority of the players in the game.

The WTO will be here long after you are gone.