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PostPosted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 10:00 pm 
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Watched it last night.
You get what you expect with this one. It's not at all tough to keep up with. It has plenty of action and suspense. The suspense for me wasn't all to amazing, but I didn't fall in love with the characters so how can you care when they're in danger?

It's pretty much a couple hours of BOOM, BOOM, KRAKAW!
Which was simple enjoyment.
The action starts as you watch all of California slip into the sea, then most the USA. Of course the graphics are top notch and plenty of people get slayed in the most imaginative of ways.

It's a thumbs up from me. If you want to watch and action flick and see the world end, check it out.
If you're one of those emo sissy boi types who prefers to watch chick flicks than don't bother.

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 Post subject: Re: 2012
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Luxur wrote:
as you watch all of California slip into the sea


WOO!! FINALLY!

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 Post subject: Re: 2012
PostPosted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 7:49 pm 
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i havent seen it yet, but it looks just like pure action/special effects - no storyline...

and it only feeds fear to the ignorant masses ...


2012 is just the next Y2K

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 Post subject: Re: 2012
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its not the next Y2K at all rhonan,

its the ORIGINAL Y2K,

Mayan calendars never went past 2012, its the earliest superstition recorded, Y2K was some last minute hoax, invented by some sad lil IT technicians that wanted new kit,

as for the film, it looks to be another "Day After Tomorrow" and in my case, a watch once never bother again

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 Post subject: Re: 2012
PostPosted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 8:52 pm 
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A_Belt wrote:
its not the next Y2K at all rhonan,

its the ORIGINAL Y2K,

Mayan calendars never went past 2012, its the earliest superstition recorded, Y2K was some last minute hoax, invented by some sad lil IT technicians that wanted new kit,

as for the film, it looks to be another "Day After Tomorrow" and in my case, a watch once never bother again


The Gregorian calendar ends every year. Does that mean the world ends? No... we just buy a new one.

The Mayan calendar cycle ends on the winter solstice of 2012. The Mayans never said it would be the end of the world -- thats a modern interpretation of what they originally said -- an end of an age and the beginning of the next cycle.

All those things that happen in the Hollywood film are scientifically impossible. The earth is not gonna blow up .... its polls cannot just shift magically...

Here... read this and stop believing in modern myths under the guise of ancient prophesy....

http://www.nasa.gov/topics/earth/features/2012.html wrote:


2012: Beginning of the End or Why the World Won't End?
11.06.09

Scenes from the upcoming film 2012. Courtesy Columbia Pictures. Scenes from the motion picture "2012." Courtesy Columbia Pictures. Remember the Y2K scare? It came and went without much of a whimper because of adequate planning and analysis of the situation. Impressive movie special effects aside, Dec. 21, 2012, won't be the end of the world as we know. It will, however, be another winter solstice.

Much like Y2K, 2012 has been analyzed and the science of the end of the Earth thoroughly studied. Contrary to some of the common beliefs out there, the science behind the end of the world quickly unravels when pinned down to the 2012 timeline. Below, NASA Scientists answer several questions that we're frequently asked regarding 2012.

Question (Q): Are there any threats to the Earth in 2012? Many Internet websites say the world will end in December 2012.

Answer (A): Nothing bad will happen to the Earth in 2012. Our planet has been getting along just fine for more than 4 billion years, and credible scientists worldwide know of no threat associated with 2012.

Q: What is the origin of the prediction that the world will end in 2012?

A: The story started with claims that Nibiru, a supposed planet discovered by the Sumerians, is headed toward Earth. This catastrophe was initially predicted for May 2003, but when nothing happened the doomsday date was moved forward to December 2012. Then these two fables were linked to the end of one of the cycles in the ancient Mayan calendar at the winter solstice in 2012 -- hence the predicted doomsday date of December 21, 2012.

Q: Does the Mayan calendar end in December 2012?

A: Just as the calendar you have on your kitchen wall does not cease to exist after December 31, the Mayan calendar does not cease to exist on December 21, 2012. This date is the end of the Mayan long-count period but then -- just as your calendar begins again on January 1 -- another long-count period begins for the Mayan calendar.

Q: Could a phenomena occur where planets align in a way that impacts Earth?

A: There are no planetary alignments in the next few decades, Earth will not cross the galactic plane in 2012, and even if these alignments were to occur, their effects on the Earth would be negligible. Each December the Earth and sun align with the approximate center of the Milky Way Galaxy but that is an annual event of no consequence.

"There apparently is a great deal of interest in celestial bodies, and their locations and trajectories at the end of the calendar year 2012. Now, I for one love a good book or movie as much as the next guy. But the stuff flying around through cyberspace, TV and the movies is not based on science. There is even a fake NASA news release out there..."
- Don Yeomans, NASA senior research scientist

Q: Is there a planet or brown dwarf called Nibiru or Planet X or Eris that is approaching the Earth and threatening our planet with widespread destruction?

A: Nibiru and other stories about wayward planets are an Internet hoax. There is no factual basis for these claims. If Nibiru or Planet X were real and headed for an encounter with the Earth in 2012, astronomers would have been tracking it for at least the past decade, and it would be visible by now to the naked eye. Obviously, it does not exist. Eris is real, but it is a dwarf planet similar to Pluto that will remain in the outer solar system; the closest it can come to Earth is about 4 billion miles.

Q: What is the polar shift theory? Is it true that the earth’s crust does a 180-degree rotation around the core in a matter of days if not hours?

A: A reversal in the rotation of Earth is impossible. There are slow movements of the continents (for example Antarctica was near the equator hundreds of millions of years ago), but that is irrelevant to claims of reversal of the rotational poles. However, many of the disaster websites pull a bait-and-shift to fool people. They claim a relationship between the rotation and the magnetic polarity of Earth, which does change irregularly, with a magnetic reversal taking place every 400,000 years on average. As far as we know, such a magnetic reversal doesn’t cause any harm to life on Earth. A magnetic reversal is very unlikely to happen in the next few millennia, anyway.

The Blue Marble: Next GenerationEarth, as seen in the Blue Marble: Next Generation collection of images, showing the color of the planet's surface in high resolution. This image shows South America from September 2004. Q: Is the Earth in danger of being hit by a meteor in 2012?

A: The Earth has always been subject to impacts by comets and asteroids, although big hits are very rare. The last big impact was 65 million years ago, and that led to the extinction of the dinosaurs. Today NASA astronomers are carrying out a survey called the Spaceguard Survey to find any large near-Earth asteroids long before they hit. We have already determined that there are no threatening asteroids as large as the one that killed the dinosaurs. All this work is done openly with the discoveries posted every day on the NASA NEO Program Office website, so you can see for yourself that nothing is predicted to hit in 2012.

Q: How do NASA scientists feel about claims of pending doomsday?

A: For any claims of disaster or dramatic changes in 2012, where is the science? Where is the evidence? There is none, and for all the fictional assertions, whether they are made in books, movies, documentaries or over the Internet, we cannot change that simple fact. There is no credible evidence for any of the assertions made in support of unusual events taking place in December 2012.

Q: Is there a danger from giant solar storms predicted for 2012?

A: Solar activity has a regular cycle, with peaks approximately every 11 years. Near these activity peaks, solar flares can cause some interruption of satellite communications, although engineers are learning how to build electronics that are protected against most solar storms. But there is no special risk associated with 2012. The next solar maximum will occur in the 2012-2014 time frame and is predicted to be an average solar cycle, no different than previous cycles throughout history.

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 Post subject: Re: 2012
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http://astrobiology.nasa.gov/ask-an-astrobiologist/intro/nibiru-and-doomsday-2012-questions-and-answers wrote:

18. Can you prove to me that Nibiru is a hoax? There are so many reports that something terrible will happen in 2012. I need proof because the government and NASA are keeping so much from us.

It is not logical to ask for proof that the 2012 doomsday is a hoax. Your questions should be to the doomsday advocates to prove that what they are saying is true, not to NASA to prove it is false. If someone claimed on the Internet that there were 50-foot tall purple elephants walking through Cleveland, would anyone expect NASA to prove this wrong? The burden of proof falls on those who make wild claims. Remember the often-quoted comment from Carl Sagan that extraordinary claims demand extraordinary levels of evidence if they are to be believed.

However, I think that astronomers have reached the point where we can offer extremely strong arguments that Nibiru does not exist. A large planet (or a brown dwarf) in our solar system would have been known to astronomers for many years, both indirectly from its gravitational perturbations on other objects and by direct detection in the infrared. The NASA Infrared Astronomy Satellite (IRAS) carried out the first all-sky survey in 1983, and several subsequent surveys would also have seen Nibiru if it were there. Further, if a large mass passed through the inner solar system every 3600 years, we would see its disruptive effects on the orbits of the inner planets, and we don’t.

You don’t need to take my word for it. Just use common sense. Have you seen Nibiru? In 2008 many websites said it would be visible to the naked eye in spring 2009. If a large planet or brown dwarf were headed for the inner solar system in 2012, it would already be tracked by hundreds of thousands of astronomers, professional and amateur, all over the world. Do you know any amateur astronomers who are watching it? Have you seen any photos or discussion of it in the big popular astronomy magazines like Sky & Telescope? Just think about it. No one could hide Nibiru if it existed.

19. What about the scary ads for the new film 2012? They tell us to look at these Internet sites to verify the doomsday threat.

The pseudoscientific claims about Nibiru and a doomsday in 2012, together with distrust of the government, are being amplified by publicity for the new film from Columbia Pictures titled 2012, to be released in November 2009. The film’s trailer, appearing in theaters and on their website , shows a tidal wave breaking over the Himalayas, with only the following words: “How would the governments of our planet prepare 6 billion people for the end of the world? [long pause] They wouldn’t. [long pause] Find out the Truth. Google search 2012”.

The film publicity includes creation of a faux scientific website (http://www.instituteforhumancontinuity.org/) for “The Institute for Human Continuity”, which is entirely fictitious. According to this website, the IHC is dedicated to scientific research and public preparedness. Its mission is the survival of mankind. The website explains that the Institute was founded 1978 by international leaders of government, business, and science. They say that in 2004, IHC scientists confirmed with 94% certainty that the world would be destroyed in 2012. This website encourages people to register for a lottery to select those who will be saved; a colleague submitted the name of her cat, which was accepted. I learned from Wikipedia that creating this sort of fake website is a new advertising technique called “Viral Marketing”, by analogy with computer viruses.



Please people, for the love of god, don't believe in the hype that so often besets the masses...

People had the same fears in Y2K...
http://www.y2ktimebomb.com/

People had some of the same fears when a scifi story occurred on the radio: the war of the worlds...
http://history1900s.about.com/od/1930s/ ... worlds.htm

Even if all this bs was true, we cant do a thing about it, so why are we so paranoid?

Why Cant We get our heads out of the proverbial buttocks of science fiction and enter the reality that we live in?

Why are we so concerned with crazy ass theories instead of real life issues:
terrorism, poverty, disease, genocide, war, famine, global warming, politics, religion etc...

If we focused on those things, we might make the world a lil better, instead of just living in fear of things that will never happen...


Okay, sermon's over -- go forth and prosper :good:

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 Post subject: Re: 2012
PostPosted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 10:08 pm 
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Nice ava and sig Rhonan :D

and yeah, if its true or false doesnt really matter, do we really want lots of advance notice so we can go to our deaths in a crazy panic?
i think id rather it all happen instantly and we die without the knowledge.

and whats more likely to happen is some bugger pushs the nuke launch button on dec 21st 2012 lol,

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 Post subject: Re: 2012
PostPosted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 11:28 pm 
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Although I follow what your ayaing about the actual 2012 stuff...the poles switching does happen...scientesits have said so, they have decided that it does because of band of iron ore in the earths crust beneath the waves go in opposite directions every so often,


But that's by the by...I still wanna see the film hopefully it will be a lot better than"knowing" and " day after tommorrow" which imo were one time watches,

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 Post subject: Re: 2012
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Just my input on the whole 2012 thing- they're a hundred years too early. 2112 is where it's at, right, Neil?

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 Post subject: Re: 2012
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:-o 2012= 20+1+2 = 23 :razz:

It all makes sense now, that crazy move with Jim Carrey was right!!!


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 Post subject: Re: 2012
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what about knowing? its gonna all go down this year......wait...shouldnt it have happened?

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 Post subject: Re: 2012
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Priest of Syrinx wrote:
Just my input on the whole 2012 thing- they're a hundred years too early. 2112 is where it's at, right, Neil?


yes, hope that, 8-) 8-) 8-)

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 Post subject: Re: 2012
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Ha, you weirdos. No one goes to these movies for crappy things like "scientifical acurracy", 'Charactor Development" or "plot". They watch these things to see the WORLD EXPLODE. :nuke: + World = :dead:



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 Post subject: Re: 2012
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Erebus wrote:
:-o 2012= 20+1+2 = 23 :razz:

It all makes sense now, that crazy move with Jim Carrey was right!!!


Lmfao!!!
epic film that

The 23 enigma ftw

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 Post subject: Re: 2012
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although I hate this statement, I want to watch it purely for the F/X

doubt the plot it too engaging, thats what gets me now, they can do decent movies but the writing is lazy or off


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